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  • PassionforWriting

    Member
    August 20, 2020 at 10:30 pm

    I just saw Jane’s post, which prompted a question I’ve been having lately.

    That is: How come some people set off to do things and see great success, while others (like me) try and try, advertise and advertise and get little results? What does it take to pull something off (tutoring, typing jobs) and perhaps like what Jane is attempting to do?

    I actually posed a similar question to a Rav and he said that it could be that it’s not the right timing for whatever it is that I’m trying to do, and that, at the same time, it could be that later on will be the right time.

    I’d also like to hear others’ perspective on this.

  • Fayge Y.

    Member
    August 21, 2020 at 12:36 am

    Not sure which post that was.

    There is so much marketing involved. I know that Michal Eisikowitz’s CopyTribe Copywriting Course has a lot of marketing.
    Bli neder I’ll try to post a link to some list I somehow got onto that might be helpful for you.

  • PassionforWriting

    Member
    August 21, 2020 at 12:57 am

    Thank you so much, Fayge! Yeah, it’s super hard to “sell myself…” 🙁

  • PassionforWriting

    Member
    August 21, 2020 at 1:01 am

    I was referring to a post by Mali about an E-magazine.

  • Fayge Y.

    Member
    August 21, 2020 at 12:10 pm

    I heard of a site called The Write Practice. I got on the mailing list. (I don’t pay anywhere near as much attention to the posts as I should, but I digress.)
    I think that’s where I heard about BusinessSuccess.com . I’m finding these emails completely irrelevant and kept meaning to unsub. Now I know why I didn’t, so I could send them to you. I think you might find them relevant.

  • riva pomerantz

    Administrator
    August 24, 2020 at 7:17 pm

    Passion, I can only speak for myself here, but I can tell you that I never advertised myself even once. What I DID do was PUT MYSELF OUT THERE! What does that mean? I set a goal for myself: I wanted to write for Mishpacha magazine. Well, how did I go about making that happen? I emailed the editor. I heard nothing back from her, of course! (No surprises there–she probably gets hundreds of emails a day!) So what did I do? I CALLED her up in Israel, while we were still living in the States. I called several times, persistently, and when I finally got through to her I begged her to give me a writing assignment, ANY writing assignment, assuring her that she would be supremely pleased with my work. Well, she did throw me an assignment (one of the most banal topics I have ever written about: carpools! :-)), but she was impressed with my work and gave me more. That’s how I got into writing for Mishpacha.

    I will give a caveat here: I really knew I was a good writer when I did this. How did I know that? Because I had spent much time and effort perfecting my techniques, I had received excellent feedback from the people around me, and I knew I had a talent for writing. All the advertising and even self-promotion in the world wouldn’t have helped me if I had let that editor down by giving her underwhelming work! So my top two tips (love the alliteration!) would be:

    1. Become an amazing writer. Primarily you do this by writing. A lot. And by being on Masterpiece, asking for and receiving feedback AND BEING OPEN TO IT! ;-), and sharing your work.

    2. Put yourself out there. Do not wait for anyone to knock on your door; rather, “pound the pavement”. Make phone calls, drop in at local businesses to see if they need any marketing materials, all that good stuff!

    Tons of hatzlacha to all of you! Keep us posted–we are totally cheering you on!

    • Bookworm

      Member
      August 25, 2020 at 6:32 pm

      Woah Riva, how did you have the guts to do that?! I don’t think I would be able to do such a thing!

      A relative of mine who is a professional writer told me, that as a start I don’t have to try to write for the big magazines like Ami or Mishpacha but to start small and then go up slowly.

  • PassionforWriting

    Member
    August 25, 2020 at 4:22 pm

    Thank you Riva. Putting yourself out there is a good point, which I do a lot through emailing my submissions very very often… The thing is, I’m a good writer, but not polished and professional, so I don’t know how comfortable I would feel writing an assignment I know I may flop. But, a lot of people DO say I write very well, like my family and friends – and they really mean it. I do a lot of reading and writing, but I do need some polishing. What do you say? Is there such a thing as “trying it out” and if I do get an assignment, to kind of use that as an experiment?

    And yes, I posted a number of pieces and plan to post more!

  • PassionforWriting

    Member
    August 25, 2020 at 4:22 pm

    And thank you Fayge! I will look into that.

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